Eine aktuelles Intweview mit Dambisa Moyo, Wirtschaftswissenschaftlerin aus Zambia, zum Thema Entwicklungshilfe:

"Probleme verschwinden nicht durch Säcke mit Reis und Mais"

Das Statement von Dambisa Moyo ist zwar nicht neu, aber Der Spiegel veröffentlicht ein aktuelles Interview mit ihr...

Gruß

Ulli

Die Afrikaner waren schon immer Meister der Bettelkunst und des Verschwindenlassens von Hilfsgeldern.
Afrika und die ganze Entwicklungshilfe ist ein Faß ohne Boden, in das die neuen Herren Afrikas, die Chinesen,
sich nun über korrupte und gierige Politiker hineinkaufen.

Zambia war dieses Jahr für mich das exemplarische Musterbeispiel einer afrikanischen Entwicklung.

Europäer fahren hin und himmeln es als das "wahre Afrika" an, wie auch die Reiseveranstalter (Mogelpackung).
Das stimmt ja auch, nur erkennen sie nicht, daß sie auf Ruinen dessen stehen, was die Engländer als völlig
intakte und entwickelte Strukturen zurückgelassen haben im ehemaligen North Rhodesia.
Man schaue nur die Ortschaften und Farmen und das, was noch übrig ist (ja, es sind weiße südafrikanische und
rhodesische Farmer die neben den Chinesen wieder Strukturen in die Landwirtschaft bringen).
Man schaue nur die Schotterstraßen, die mal Teerstraßen waren und wo man hin und wieder einen "black patch"
als Relikt einer ehemaligen Teerstraße erkennt.
Man schaue nur mal Schienentrassen an, die stillgelegt sind und verfallen weil nirgendwo etwas erhalten wurde.
Man schaue nur mal die Slums an die sich an die größeren Ortschaften und Lusaka anschließen.
Man schaue nur die Schlaglöcher in den neuen durch die Chinesen gebauten Straßen, die nicht instandgehalten werden.
Schwarze Zambier trauern ihrem verstorbenen vorigen Präsidenten nach, der die Korruption rigoros bekämpft hat,
kompetente Leute ins Land geholt und damit die Wirtschaft wiederbelebt hat. Sie beklagen die wieder massiv
grassierende neue Korruption.

Wenn man solche Länder mit offenen Augen ohne Scheuklappen und Glückshormonblindheit bereist,
kehrt man eigentlich mehr betrübt als beglückt zurück.

Es ist unwahrscheinlich, das Glücksgefühl, wenn man dann nach Namibia zurückkehrt, welches den absoluten
Glücksfall einer späteren Unabhängigkeit erlebte und bisher nicht eingetretenen Totalverfall erleben brauchte, obwohl
auch da bereits sehr viel in den vergangenen 20 Jahren kaputtgegangen ist.

Ein weiteres Problem ist, daß jene Leute, die wirklich das Steuer in der afrikanischen Entwicklung herumreißen
könnten, entweder ungehört verhallen, oder nichts zu sagen haben, wie der allgemein beliebte namibische
Präsident Pohamba, der nicht vom Gängelband eines Strippenziehers und heimlichen Herrschers Sam Nujoma
los kommt (Puppet on a string).

Hallo Swakop,

die Rückkehr zu "afrikanischen" verhältnisen ist zu erkennen in Ländern wie Sambia (Zambia nöchte ich nicht erwähnen)
Das Problem von mir (wie wohl auch von Anderen) dürfte sein dass wir keine Vergleichsmöglichkeiten haben, da ich vor 10 oder 20
Jahren die südlichen Länder nicht bereist habe. Ich kenne einige Länder des des nördlichen und westlichen Afrikas und da war es
nach meinem Empfinden schon immer so.

Das mit der Entwicklungshilfe ist so eine Sache, im Grundsatz eine gute humanitäre Sache, in der Umsetzung teils ein Katastrophe.
Nun wenigsten kann Toyota jedes Jahr zig neue 4x4 der Oberklasse nach Afrika vekaufen. Die Herren und Damen müssen ja auch
in Jo-Burg (als Beispiel) mit 60 000€ teuren Geländewagen herumkurven - ein Polo für die Hilforganisation ist meist nicht gut genug.

Mrs Dambisa Moyo sieht das ziemlich klar in ihrem Statement



Gruss Kurt

Hi Kurt,
man benötigt keine "Vergleichsmöglichkeiten" wenn man nur seine Augen öffnet, und dann erkennt man was mal da war
und was da an Ruinen übrig ist an ehemaliger Infrastruktur.
Zum Teil ist da nach 50 Jahren weniger übrig als was in Ägypten oder Europa selbst nach 2000 Jahren von den alten
Ägyptern oder Römern/ Griechen übrig ist.
Und das ist wahrlich erschreckend.
Wie schnell das geht ersieht man selbst in Namibia am ehemals einmaligen Bergbaustandort Tsumeb, wie kurz
nach einem wilden Kaputtstreik der Mineworkers Union MUN alles unwiderruflich zerstört ist, begleitet von einer ökologischen
Katastrophe die niemand wahrhaben möchte (mit giftigen Schwermetallen verseuchtes Grundwasser).

Ein interessanter Artikel vom Bruder des vorigen südafrikanischen Präsidenten, der zur Zeit weltweit, primär aber
in Südafrika grassiert, und die Problematik überwiegend auf den Punkt bringt:

Von Moeletsi Mbeki:

I can predict when SA’s "Tunisia Day" will arrive. Tunisia Day is when the masses rise against the powers that be,
as happened recently in Tunisia. The year will be 2020, give or take a couple of years. The year 2020 is when China
estimates that its current minerals-intensive industrialisation phase will be concluded.

For SA, this will mean the African National Congress (ANC) government will have to cut back on social grants, which
it uses to placate the black poor and to get their votes. China’s current industrialisation phase has forced up the
prices of SA’s minerals, which has enabled the government to finance social welfare programmes. The ANC is
currently making SA a welfare state and tends to ‘forget’ that there is only a minority that pay all the taxes.
They are often quick to say that if people (read whites) are not happy they should leave. The more people that leave,
the more their tax base shrinks. Yes, they will fill the positions with BEE candidates ( read: blacks), but if they are not
capable of doing the job then the company will eventually fold as well as their ‘new’ tax base. When there is no more
money available for handouts they will then have a problem because they are breeding a culture of handouts instead of
creating jobs so people can gain an idea of the value of money. If you keep getting things for free then you lose the
sense of its value. The current trend of saying if the west won’t help then China will is going to bite them. China will
want payment – ie land for their people and will result in an influx of Chinese (there is no such thing as a free lunch!)

The ANC inherited a flawed, complex society it barely understood; its tinkerings with it are turning it into an explosive
cocktail. The ANC leaders are like a group of children playing with a hand grenade. One day one of them will figure out
how to pull out the pin and everyone will be killed. …and 20 years on they still blame apartheid but have not done much
to rectify things – changing names etc only costs money that could have been spent elsewhere.

A famous African liberation movement, the National Liberation Front of Algeria, after tinkering for 30 years, pulled the
grenade pin by cancelling an election in 1991 that was won by the opposition Islamic Salvation Front. In the civil war
that ensued, 200000 people were killed. The ‘new’ leaders are forgetting the ‘struggle’ heroes and the reasons for it
– their agenda is now power and money and it suits them for the masses to be ignorant – same as Mugabe did in Zim.
If you do not agree with the leaders then the followers intimidate you.

The former British prime minister, Margaret Thatcher, once commented that whoever thought that the ANC could rule
SA was living in Cloud Cuckoo Land. Why was Thatcher right? In the 16 years of ANC rule, all the symptoms of a
government out of its depth have grown worse.

Life expectancy has declined from 65 years to 53 years since the ANC came to power; - a leader who did not believe
that HIV causes AIDS (Mbeki) and another who believes having a shower after unprotected sex is the answer and has
5 wives and recently a child out of wedlock (Zuma). Great leaders for the masses to emulate!!- not!!

In 2007, SA became a net food importer for the first time in its history ; Yet they want to carry on with their struggle
song ‘kill the boer(farmer)’ and stopping farm killings does not seem to be a priority. They do not seem to realise where
food actually comes from.

The elimination of agricultural subsidies by the government led to the loss of 600000 farm workers’ jobs and the eviction
from the commercial farming sector of about 2,4-million people between 1997 and 2007; and – yet they want to create
jobs and cause even more job losses – very short-sighted thinking.

The ANC stopped controlling the borders, leading to a flood of poor people into SA, which has led to conflicts between SA’s
poor and foreign African migrants. Not much thought was given to this – their attitude was to help fellow Africans by
allowing them ‘refuge’ in SA. Not thinking that illegals cannot legally get jobs but they need to eat to live. I believe that
most of our crime is by non-South Africans from north of the borders. They need to do something to survive!
Remove the illegal problem and you solve most of the crime problem.…but is it in their interest to solve crime?
There are whole industries built on crime – each burglary, car hijacking etc results in more sales of product and contribute
to GDP. & nbsp;What would sales be if crime was down? I do not believe that anyone has worked out how much electricity
is consumed a day because of electric fencing and security lights at night. Reduce the need for this (crime) and Eksdom
(Eskom) would probably have a power surplus. – or if they charged our African neighbours the correct rates at least make a
decent profit to build more power stations.

What should the ANC have done, or be doing?

The answer is quite straightforward. When they took control of the government in 1994, ANC leaders should have: identified
what SA’s strengths were; identified what SA’s weaknesses were; and decided how to use the strengths to minimise and/or
rectify the weaknesses. Standard business principle – but they too busy enriching themselves. People who were in prison or
were non-entities 20 years ag o are now billionaires – how? BEE??

A wise government would have persuaded the skilled white and Indian population to devote some of their time — even an hour a
week — to train the black and coloured population to raise their skill levels. This done by lots of NGO’s but should have been more
constructively done by the ruling party.

What the ANC did instead when it came to power was to identify what its leaders and supporters wanted. It then used SA’s
strengths to satisfy the short-term consumption demands of its supporters. In essence, this is what is called black economic
empowerment (BEE). …and put people in positions they could not cope with making them look stupid where if they had the
necessary grounding could have been good in the position at the right time. You cannot & #8216;create’ a company CEO in a
couple of years. It takes years of work starting at the bottom of the ladder – not in the middle. Only some things can be learnt
in books – experience is the most important factor and this is not found in text books or university corridors.

BEE promotes a number of extremely negative socioeconomic trends in our country. It promotes a class of politicians dependent
on big business and therefore promotes big business’s interests in the upper echelons of government. Second, BEE promotes an anti-entrepreneurial culture among the black middle class by legitimising an environment of entitlement.
Third, affirmative action, a subset of BEE, promotes incompetence (what I said above) and corruption in the public sector by using
ruling party allegiance and connections as the criteria for entry and promotion in the public service, instead of having tough public
service entry examinations. Nepotism is rife – jobs for friends and families who are nowhere near qualified – and then hire consultants
to actually get the work done – at additional cost of course!

Let’s see where BEE, as we know it today, actually comes from. I first came across the concept of BEE from a company, which no
longer exists, called Sankor. Sankor was the industrial division of Sanlam and it invented the concept of BEE.

The first purpose of BEE was to create a buffer group among the black political class that would become an ally of big business in
SA. This buffer group would use its newfound power as controllers of the government to protect the assets of big business.

The buffer group would also protect the modus operandi of big business and thereby maintain the status quo in which South African
business operates. That was the design of the big conglomerates.

Sanlam was soon followed by Anglo American. Sanlam established BEE vehicle Nail; Anglo established Real Africa, Johnnic and so forth.
The conglomerates took their marginal assets, and gave them to politically influential black people, with the purpose, in my view, not to
transform the economy but to create a black political class that is in alliance with the conglomerates and therefore wants to maintain
the status quo of our economy and the way in which it operates.

But what is wrong with protecting SA’s conglomerates?

Well, there are many things wrong with how conglomerates operate and how they have structured our economy.

The economy has a strong built-in dependence on cheap labour; With tight labour legislation they are preventing people from getting
jobs. For some industries minimum wages are too high resulting in less people being employed. Because it is almost impossible to
get rid of an incompetent employee without it costing lots of money in severance people rather do not employ – run on minimum with
no incentive to grow the business – or alternatively automate. Result – more unemployment and employment of illegals at more
affordable wages.

It has a strong built-in dependence on the exploitation of primary resources;
It is strongly unfavourable to the development of skills in our general population; Gone are the days of the artisan – no more
structured learning to be artisans over a period of time. Try to fast track everything resulting in little on the job experience to be able
to do the job. That is why Eksdom has sub stations blowing up and catching fire – lack of skill and maintenance. A friend told me
about 5 years that this would start happening after Tshwane (Pretoria) started qualifying electrical engineers who were not up to standard.
It has a strong bias towards importing technology and economic solutions; and – at a higher cost
It promotes inequality between citizens by creating a large, marginalised underclass. Who depend on handouts that cannot be maintained
into perpetuity.
Conglomerates are a vehicle, not for creating development in SA but for exploiting natural resources without creating in-depth, inclusive
social and economic development, which is what SA needs. That is what is wrong with protecting conglomerates.

The second problem with the formula of BEE is that it does not create entrepreneurs. People do not develop necessary skills when
being fast-tracked into a position and being given a free ride.You are taking political leaders and politically connected people and giving
them assets which, in the first instance, they don’t know ho w to manage. So you are not adding value. You are faced with the threat of
undermining value by taking assets from people who were managing them and giving them to people who cannot manage them (what
I said earlier above) BEE thus creates a class of idle rich ANC politicos.

My quarrel with BEE is that what the conglomerates are doing is developing a new culture in SA — not a culture of entrepreneurship,
but an entitlement culture, whereby black people who want to go into business think that they should acquire assets free, and that
somebody is there to make them rich, rather than that they should build enterprises from the ground. Agree!

But we cannot build black companies if what black entrepreneurs look forward to is the distribution of already existing assets from the conglomerates in return for becoming lobb yists for the conglomerates. All companies start from the bottom – when they are ‘given’
these businesses they are usually run into the ground because of inexperience. And when they are given loans to buy business the
loans invariable are not repaid and the businesses go bankrupt.

The third worrying trend is that the ANC-controlled state has now internalised the BEE model. We are now seeing the state trying to
implement the same model that the conglomerates developed.

What is the state distributing? It is distributing jobs to party faithful and social welfare to the poor (what I said in different words)
This is a recipe for incompetence and corruption, both of which are endemic in SA. This is what explains the service delivery upheavals
that are becoming a normal part of our environment.

So what is the correct road SA should be travelling?

We all accept that a socialist model, along the lines of the Soviet Union, is not workable for SA today. The creation of a state-owned
economy is not a formula that is an option for SA or for many parts of the world. Therefore, if we want to develop SA instead of
shuffling pre-existing wealth, we have to create new entrepreneurs, and we need to support existing entrepreneurs to diversify into
new economic sectors.

Make people work for their ‘handouts’ even if it means they must sweep the streets or clean a park – just do something instead of
getting all for nothing. Guaranteed there will then be less queing for handouts because they would then be working and in most
instances they do not want to work – they want everything for nothing..

And in my opinion the ANC created this culture before the first election in 1994 when they promised the masses housing, electricity etc
– they just neglected to tell them that they would have to pay for them. That is why the masses constantly do not want to pay for
water, electricity, rates on their properties – they think the government must pay this – after all they were told by the ANC that they will
be given these things – they just do not want to understand that the money to pay for this comes from somewhere and if you don’t
pay you will eventually not have these services.

And then when the tax base has left they can grow their mielies in front of their shack and stretch out their open palms to the UN for
food handouts an live a day to day existence that seems to be what they want – sit on their arse and do nothing.

Mbeki is the author of Architects of Poverty:
Why African Capitalism Needs Changing. This article forms part of a series on transformation supplied by the Centre for Development
and Enterprise.

Das endemische Krebsgeschwür des gesamten Schwarzafrikas südlich der Sahara ist die tief verwurzelte Bereitschaft zur Korruption;
die Bürger jener Staaten sehen diese als nicht verwerflich an, nein, sie himmeln und wählen jene am ehesten die am meisten stehlen,
lügen, betrügen und sich selbst bereichern. Wohl in der Hoffnung, irgenwann selbst ein paar Krümel ab zu bekommen. Bei jedem
Umsturz in den vergangenen Dekaden hat es sich gezeigt, daß die neuen Machthaber immer dort weiter gemacht haben, wo die bösen
Vorgänger aufgehört haben.

In Südafrika gab es während der bösen Apartheidsregentschaft keine Korruption. Mit welcher Macht und Dreistigkeit das Korruptions-
spiel durch die darauf folgenden schwarzen Machthaber gespielt wird, zeigt der folgende Bericht aus Südafrika auf
(Quelle: Leadership Intelligence Bulletin):

Zuma’s response to increased pressure

South Africa’s perceived rampant corruption continues to make headlines with a number of new developments placing it in the full
glare of the public spotlight. Wider factors than just the need for good governance have come into play during recent times, prompting
responses from president Jacob Zuma.

There are now deeper underlying factors involved, with issues like factional power struggles in the ruling African National Congress (ANC),
the activities and management of the country’s security services, and the ANC’s elective conference next year, coming into play.

Some recent developments have dramatically increased the pressure on Zuma and his government, making it clear they could no longer
simply gloss over the escalation of incidents and hope they would eventually go away.

There has not been a sudden Damascus experience regarding corruption. Instead public pressure, a confluence of various developments,
specific political dynamics and, most importantly, key elements in South Africa’s constitutional system have forced various government
role-players to a point where action became unavoidable.

Some of the outcomes include:

Probes into tender deals in Limpopo and into the affairs of ANC Youth League leader Julius Malema;
A probe into the role of national Police Commissioner General Bheki Cele in the irregular leasing of buildings and his possible
suspension; Public Works Minister Gwen Mahlangu-Nkabinde embarking on a public relations crusade to try and clear her own name
and going to court to overturn the police property-lease deals; and
A commission of inquiry to finally probe South Africa’s multi-billion-dollar strategic arms procurement deal.

While South Africa still is one of the less corrupt African nations according to Transparency International’s annual survey, that distinction
could be changing fast. Added up the amounts involved in just a few of the current or recent corruption scandals, representing just the
tip of the iceberg

Public Works

Ironically it is the beleaguered Mhalangu-Nkabinde who aptly hit the nail on the head this week lamenting at a news conference that “we
have allowed thieves and thugs to run our country.” She herself still owes the country and the Public Protectors some answers regarding
her role in the R1.7bn shady police building-lease deals.

Without naming any names, she clearly entered into a tit-for-tat verbal duel with her predecessor, the redeployed Geoff Doidge, claiming
she had been handed “a poisoned chalice” when she took over from him 10 months ago. She announced that corruption to the tune of
R3bn was being investigated in her department, but made no mention of the two police-building leases.

While she had suspended the departmental director-general – who first blew the whistle on the police property deals – she has now also
suspended her own replacement. Last week she embarked on a public relations road-show to clear her name, coming out against her
predecessor, officials in the department, and even the Public Protector.

She also went to court to try and reverse the police property-lease deals she herself reinstated after Doidge had put them on hold when
alerted by his D-G.

Although President Zuma has yet to take any action against her, as proposed by the Public Protector, in some political circles her latest
actions are viewed as a desperate attempt to save her political career.

Police Property Leases

Equally under pressure is General Cele whose role in the affair is to be probed on instructions from Zuma. In his case the Public Protector
had also advised that action should be taken. In both his and Mahlangu-Nkabinde’s cases the public outcry, demands by opposition
parties and by others left Zuma will little choice.

But, in Cele’s case there are strong suspicions that Zuma’s is also motivated by the fact that he may be part of a group of senior ANC
role-players opposing Zuma’s re-election at the ANC’s elective conference next year.

Previously seen as a long-time trusted ally, Cele’s name cropped up the first time with that of Human Settlements Minister Tokyo Sexwale
and others some months ago as belonging to a group that want to topple Zuma.

Arms Deal

After numerous attempts by the government to sidetrack and shelve probes into the controversial R30bn strategic arms procurement
deal, the issue has come back to haunt President Zuma and the ANC. After more than a decade of resisting pressure for an inquiry,
Zuma suddenly out of the blue announced that he was appointing a commission of inquiry.

This led to a flood of speculation about possible reasons. The most feasible one is that his hand was forced by expectations that the
Constitutional Court will in November rule in favour of arms-deal activist Terry Crawford Browne's application to force Zuma to reopen
the arms deal investigation. Zuma, it is believed, may have opted to pre-empt the court ruling to allow him to retain control over the
composition and terms of reference of a commission of inquiry.

But it was new evidence emerging from Swedish arms company Saab in June that first may have forced the matter, as it left the head of
the police Hawks investigative unit, General Anwar Dramat, with no option but to reopen investigations.

Other speculation – and there is no confirmation for this – is that Zuma wants to use the inquiry to expose and embarrass some of his
political opponents in the ANC before they can generate enough momentum to try and topple him.

It should however be remembered that Zuma himself is not safe. He spent many months and a small fortune to avoid going to court to
have to answer corruption charges related to the arms deal for which his erstwhile financial adviser, Schabir Shaik was jailed.

Oilgate

In another recent development a letter addressed to ANC leaders and written shortly before his death by the businessman who stood
central in the Oilgate scandal, Sandi Majali, spells out how he channelled R18-million to the ANC’s election funds through a deal with
state oil company PetroSA, and that he paid a further R13.5-million to the ANC. Majali threatened that if probes into these payments
and other matters were not stopped, he would make further public disclosures. However, Majali was found dead in a hotel room shortly
afterwards.

Limpopo tenders

While corruption and self-enrichment by the politically connected has become endemic throughout South Africa, few if any other regions
arguably suffer this social cancer more severely than the northern province of Limpopo. And while recent news reports regarding
allegations of corruption in this province have tended to focus on the affairs of ANC Youth League (ANCYL) leader Julius Malema and
those closely associated with him, the problem in this province goes much deeper and is much more widerspread.

In a sinister new development a power struggle for control of resources and business opportunities between supposed allies, the
Limpopo SA Communist Party (SACP) on the one hand and the ANC provincial government, ANC Youth League (ANCYL) and the
Limpopo ANC Women’s League (ANCWL) on the other, has shed new light on the problems in this province. (See our analysis of
last week.)

Names that have cropped up in connection with patronage deals, irregular tender awards and other corrupt deals in the province, are
those of Malema; close family and friends of his; the provincial ANC leader and premier, Cassel Mathale, who is also a Malema ally;
Mathale’s business partner Selby Manthata; Lesiba Gwangwa, the chief executive of On-Point Engineering, which is co-owned by
Malema’s Ratanang Family Trust; and Limpopo ANC Youth League secretary Jacob Lebogo.

Numerous cases of tender irregularities and gross price inflation on invoices in the provincial Health Department are finally being
investigated.

Malema and his family trust are now being investigated by among others the Hawks, while police are also investigating tender irregularities
amounting to millions of rands in this province after the ANC’s labour ally, the Congress of SA Trade Unions (Cosatu), recently laid charges.

An Swakop,

legen wir mal für einen kurzen Augenblick die Schwarz/Weiss Brille zur Seite

Korruption und Vetternwirtschaft gab es sehr wohl während der weissen Herrschaft.
Schwarze konnten in diesen Sytstem auch nicht wirklich aufsteigen, oder irre ich mich)

Wer einen guten Onkel hatte machte "weisse" Kariere - einfach eine andere Art der Korruption!
Die Apartheid kann wohl als Massstab nicht herhalten - fehlt noch das man der Appartheid einen Nobelpreis hinterherreicht

Prost Amarula

Korruptions Index - ist kein rein Afrikanisches Problem

INDEX

Korruption hat wenig zu tun mit einem weißen Onkel...der Vergleich hinkt gewaltigst.

Was heute an widerwärtiger offener, zum Teil rassistischer, und mit hochgradig krimineller Energie betriebener Korruption in Südafrika
abläuft, genau das hat es nicht einmal in Ansätzen während der Apartheidszeit gegeben. Kommt einmal ein Verfahren, werden Polizei-
einheiten aufgelöst, Staatsanwälte versetzt, Richter versetzt, oder entlassen. Zeugen sterben eines dubiosen Todes, Untersuchungen
werden behindert und nicht zuende geführt. Weil die Beamten mal eben an andere Standorte versetzt werden, weil irgendein dubioser
Parteigenosse ins Fadenkreuz der Ermittler gelangen könnte, oder aber Haupttäter ist.
Nur wer informiert ist, braucht hinkende Vergleiche nicht zu fabrizieren. Denn dann weiß er, worüber geredet wird.
Den regierenden ANC kann man schon fast als organisierte Kriminalität bezeichnen.

Das, was heute an verdeckter Korruption im Kreise deutscher Politiker und der ihnen und ihren politischen Parteien wohlmeinenden Lobbyisten
abläuft, das will ja auch niemand wahrhaben. Parteienspenden kommen nicht aus Liebe und Wohltätigkeit, sondern weil etwas erwartet wird.

Davon abgesehen, gibt es mehr als genügend Schwarze, die sich die Apartheidszeit zurücksehnen, weil es ihnen sehr viel besser als heute
ging. Eine real gelebte Apartheid auf dem Lande, die uns nicht durch Presse-Sensationalismus verteufelt und Europäern in die Hirne
gebrannt ist, sondern wie sie wirklich war. Und die bestand aus mehr und Anderem als den zum Teil gefälschten Bildern, die Teil der Ost-
West-Propaganda und der Mainstream-Verteufelungen waren.

Wenn dieses das Ergebnis der Anti-Apartheidsrevolution ist, mit der begleitenden Kriminalität und der massenweisen Morde, ja, dann muß
der Realist wohl annehmen, daß die Apartheidzeit eines Anstandspreises wohl wert wäre.

Aber lassen wir das Thema, Zeitzeugen sind heutzutage nicht gefragt, hoch leben die tatsachenklitternden "Historiker" vom Schlage eines
DDR-Drechsler & Co.

Um es klar zu stellen, auch selbst wir als Weiße haben unter der Apartheid gelitten, denn meine Eltern verloren ihre Existenz weil sie ein
"farbiges" Gebiet ohne Ausgleich verlassen mußten. Und das war vergleichsweise ein Paradies zu dem was heute auf Farmen in Südafrika
abläuft, dessen Tatsachen die Gutmenschen heutiger Prägung nicht wahrnehmen möchten, weil es nicht in das Propagandabild des
Mainstreams paßt, und jeder, der sich äußert oder dagegen kämpft, gleich als Rechtsradikaler oder als Rassist diffamiert wird. Und dazu
braucht man nicht einmal Anhänger der Apartheid sein. Dazu genügt es heute schon, nur die Wahrheit zu äußern.

Hallo Swakop

aus meiner Sicht ein Denkfehler

die Schwarzen sehnen sich nicht zurück nach der Apartheit - sondern nach Einkommen und Wohlstand und dies ohne Unterdrückung.

Die einzigen die sich nach der Apartheit zurücksehen sind die ewiggestrigen Weissen die nie kapieren werden das die guten alten Zeiten
wo man als Herrenrasse alle Resourcen schamlos ausschöpfen konnte und mit Resourcen meine ich nicht nur die im Boden.

Ich verstehe sowieso nicht weshalb man so viel Energie in einen Kampf aufwändet der Verloren ist, anstelle diese Energie für die Zukunft zu verwenden.

Aber egal, in 100 Jahren ist die Apartheid nur noch unwesentliche Geschichte - wetten.

Prost Amarula

PS
Selbst Cäsar hatt die Grösse sich einzugestehen wenn er die "Schlacht verloren hatte

Siehst Du, Amarula, das ist das Problem, wenn man weder die Sprache, noch die Mentalität
anderer Völker versteht, und alles durch seine europäische Brille zu erkennen und zu verstehen
versucht, und nicht einmal mitbekommt, was denn bei Demos Schwarzer gegen Schwarze
aufgrund mangelhafter städtischer Leistungen auf dem "platten Lande" abläuft.
Es gibt Menschen, die alles erkennen was sie wahrzunehmen in der Lage sind, und es gibt Menschen
die aufgrund vorgefaßter Meinung nur sehen was sie sehen wollen.

Denn mal Prost!

P.S. Übrigens:
Selbst in 500 Jahren wird die Apartheid noch immer an allem Schuld sein, was bei den Regierenden
in Südafrika schief läuft! Das hat mir ein Uniprofessor im Süden der USA vorausgesagt. Leider
werde ich nicht in der Lage sein, das zu verifizieren!?... Er führte das Beispiel Sklaverei in den
USA an.